This is a very cool rumor, that not only discusses Blood Angels and Space Wolves, but goes right into dealing with a very sensitive subject, the Sisters of Battle.


There is nothing I would like better than to see the Inquisition expanded upon. The idea of Inquisitors able to replace an Imperial Guard HQ would be a dream come true for my own personal collection. I love Inquisitors with my IG on the table top and is one of the primary reasons I play Grey Knights.

Please remember that this is a rumor, and on this one, please add some extra salt.

via an Anonymous Source

Wolves early / middle 2014, Inquisition fall / end 2014, Blood Angels fall / end 2015.
Not many releases for Wolves, just specific flyer variants.
Finecast big predator wolf.
Wulven units included.
They also get almost all Marine releases till then, apart of flyers.
Inquisition all three ordos, two different armies (grey knights and sororitas). Inquisitors can replace IG HQs.
Blood Angels on early re-design.

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    1. Unfortunatly that's what it looks like, but I'm going to be hopeful that it isn't because I play Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves (I love power armour).

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    2. I agree. I woul be surprised if GW themselves would know what they are releasing in 18 month or more.

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    3. Yeah, as much as it pains me and my 6,000 points of Sisters, I think GW's throw in the towel on them.

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    4. Jervis has been quoted as recently as the latter half of last year saying they haven't forgotten the sisters and have no plans to drop them

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    5. I still think Games Workshop is going to drop the Sisters Codex AND the Black Templar codex both. They obviously do not care about them, its simple stupid to think otherwise

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  2. Shouldn't somebody tell Games Workshop that all three Ordos would mean Deathwatch too.

    Ordo Hereticus chamber militant: Sisters of Battle.
    Ordo Malleus chamber militant: Grey Knights.
    Ordo Xenos chamber militant: Deathwatch.

    I'm excited about an Inquisition Codex, but will be well disappointed if the Deathwatch are missing. Not everything in 40K is heretics and daemons!

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    1. Forgive my rant.

      I've wanted a Codex Alien Hunters ever since GW first released Codex Daemonhunters. How long ago was that?

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    2. Problem with Deathwatch is that they'd essentially be veteran space marines with preferred enemy (xenos). Feel like they don't really need a whole new army book for just them. They'd be better off as an elites choice in another book imo. Maybe IG if you replace HQ with an Inquisitor.

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    3. I'm already planning to use Sternguard and Vanguard veterans as Deathwatch. Apothicaries can be like Sanguinary Priest, 0-3 and assigned to squads. Captain, Chaplain, Librarian and Techmarine can be left alone.

      I might do my own Codex Deathwatch once Codex Space Marines is released.

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    4. I've been SLOWLY acquiring a Deathwatch army. I just wish they would release the shoulder pads in bulk. That is where all the money goes.

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    5. a deathwatch army is possiable. it'd proably work a little bit like grey knights in they it'd basicly be elite level space marines with some additional goodies. you'd proably basicly have stuff like sterguard swuads being troops etc

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    6. Or GW just decides that he Ordo Xenos should get a brand military arm that has never been mentioned in teh fluff...

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    7. Deathwatch should remain Elite and relatively rare.....they should be incorporated into either GK or SoB Codex or given a suppliment at a minimum. To date they were only Chapter Approved for a short time.....which is why most people that wish to play them must use Sternguard or Vanguard as proxy rules. I just do not envision the Deathwatch as an Army....they are deployed as Kill-Teams in small numbers to perform specific surgical strike missions....just doesn't equate to an "Army" like other Chapters....they are the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Xenos, spread out to the various Watch Fortresses and Outposts until deployed on a specific mission.

      Their usage, tactics and such do not reconcile being fielded like any other Chapters nor in such numbers IMO. I would be fine with them being an Elite choice squad sized element (Kill-Team) led by a Captain or Librarian as current fluff dictates or as retinue for an Inquisitor.

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  3. All of this sounds way too amazing to be true, so I'm not holding my breath.

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  4. I would really like the Inquisition to be expanded upon. All three ordos and deathwatch are not currently represented well. Grey Knights are great, but there is a lot more to the Inquisition than Grey Knights.

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    1. To be fair to the Ordo Hereticus they're the hardest to put on the table since they internally police the Imperium while the other two branches handle external threats.

      That aside taking a popular book (Grey Knights) and then reflagging it as "Codex: Inquisition" and slapping Sisters in there doesn't seem right.

      It just feels off for how GW rolls. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it seems highly unlikely. I'd love to see if any other rumour sources confirm or denies this one though.

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    2. I have to agree with Zion. Although Ordo Hereticus are the sisters. Ordo Xenos is the Death Watch. So Ordo Hereticus are already on the table ;

      You could combine the three orders with seperate army lists that only shared the Inquisition type units. I just don't want to see all three ordos in one big blob on the table... it feels wrong.

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    3. As of the WD Sisters no longer have ties in their codex to the Inquisition. Additionally when they did in Codex: Witch Hunters they were portrayed as being seperate from the Ordo Hereticus, but at the same time often employed by them due to their unique position in the Imperium (which basically makes them a quasi-Iquisitorial force over the Miistranium and everything it touches, which is almost everything) and their dedication/skill in the field.

      Yes, I am a Sisters player and collector. I've spent a lot of time combing over their rules and lore.

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    4. Whats the Limit on expanding? Its to Big and GW Could come up with a Mio New orders.

      I just dont See it happening, caus a Army Needs to be Uniform and has to offer diffrent Tools (Units). How do you make a Codex deathwatch that isnt just a nother Marine dex with Rhinos Jumppacks Termis dreads and so on?
      One Could say SOB are Kinds like Marines. Its just to many Marine Books. They should rather do Imp.Fists or Salamanders dex.

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    5. Imperial Fists and Salamanders, with minor tactical preferences (such as siege or not killing innocent Imperial Citizens) aside are Codex Astartes compliant chapters. That means that the best way to represent them is through whatever book the Ultramarines are in, at least without a major rewrite of the current lore.

      Sisters are honestly more like Stormtroopers with Rhinos, Bolters, a love of setting things on fire and the ability to pull miracles off than Marines. Equating Sisters to Marines because the both have Bolters, Power Armour and Power Armour really makes no sense when Inquisitorial Squads can have Bolters, Rhinos and Power Armour. There is more to the Sisters than "Diet Marines", or "Marines with T3 and boobs".

      Granted to know that people would actually have to look at the lore more than the stat line, but that's asking too much of most people.

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  5. This sounds untrue to me. I'm sorry but I just feel that way.

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  6. Dont believe in a sororitas+grey army book. Why sell one book if G can sell 2 at the same prize?

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  7. I wouldn't believe this is doesn't fit in at all with the current pace of GW releases and putting sisters of battle and grey knights in the same book with the possibility of death watch would create a ridiculous amount of units for the player to choose from.

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  8. I could see this as more Matt Ward BS. Something like:
    "GK HQ sacrifices closest battle sister for x buff."

    Yuck. My sisters need their own book.
    Preferably with ccw celestians and some sort of assault vehicle (i mean celestians, death cult, and repentia are all assault units).

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    1. BoS are a Codex with very few options of different troops and they don't have long-range weapons such lascannons.
      I think that BoS would be works better as a allies of Imperial Guard and Space Marines than a core force.

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    2. "and Grey Knight unit that kills a Sisters of Battle Squad in close combat gains a 1+ Deny the Witch rule, and is completely immune to everything done by Chaos Daemons"

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  9. When it comes to sisters, GW will learn from Tau. Demand was overwhelming and way beyond expectation. Sisters are just the same. DO not be surprised if GW starts taking a long look at their strategy for sisters.

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    1. Agreed

      I'd love to see sales of space fish vs hobbits.

      I think Eldar and Sisters (especially if they ditch the monkey faced sculpts) would be big releases.

      I wonder if DKoK are still the most expensive army to build now or has GW priced Sisters higher?

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    2. Sisters are $17 for three, so to even get the base squad of 10, with no special weapons, you're spending $51 for 9 plus either another $17 for a bolter Superior, or $15ish for one of the pistol+CC options. So, a 20 sister squad with a boltgun on the superior(which I'm only assuming is an option like with marines) would run you $133, 7 3 sister packs leaving one left over.

      20 DKoK, depending on the exchange rate, would run you $113.

      The DKoK 10-mans come with 1 flamer, but otherwise there are no special weapons here. So you're looking at $9-$14 for sisters, depending which special or heavy, while with DKoK $19 will get you 2 each of flamer/melta/plasma/grenade launcher...arms, with $27 for heavy weapon teams, which are all two models to be fair.

      So, while at first glance it looks like Sisters are indeed more expensive, don't forget that DKoK is probably going to require more infantry models depending how you build it so likely still have the dubious honor of coming out on top of the most expensive pile.

      Even if you don't count forgeworld and go with just stuff from GW's mainline, I think a non-standard IG regiment(Valhallans, Steel Legion, etc.) would likely end up being more expensive due to the 'needs more models' issue, but there you go.

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  10. for some reason the upcoming inquisition codex made me want to watch the monty python spanish inquisition skits lol

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    1. http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/spanish-inquisition
      If you were unaware of these, they may be of interest ;)

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  11. Have Orks disappeared from the lineup?

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  12. So, to make a tentative release schedule, so far, and with a grain of salt, putting together all the different rumors:
    Eldar: June '13
    SM: Fall '13
    Tyranids: Jan '14
    IG: one - two months after Tyrs
    Orks: somewhere Q2 '14
    Wolves: end Q2 - Q3 '14
    Inquisition: fall/winter '14
    Dark Eldars (or Necrons): Q1 '15
    Necrons: second release in '15
    Blood Angels: last of the existing factions, somewhere in '15.
    After that, what for the one/two or more years to come before the seventh? A new race maybe (Hrud? Imperial Navy? Mechanicum) second waves for different races with a lot of flyers, updated versions of other material like planetary empires and so forth...
    Now, my wallet, don't fell already empty. ;-)

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    1. I would actually be highly surprised if gw pumped out all the codexes for 6th before 7th ed hit the shelves. If they did the would actually stall their business model and end up with edition division.
      To explain what I mean here there are lots of dungeons and dragons players that refuse to play the current version and have all the books for previous editions. Those people give no money back to the company in a scramble for used second hand books.
      Gw would shoot themselves in the foot to follow such a course of action. Personally I would love to see all of them out in one edition to bring better balance to the game, but from a business perspective it doesn't work as well.

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    2. I'm sceptic of Eldar in June. I More see them In August and Apocalypse in June.

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    3. @ Saearath, Since Xmas, GW has dropped CSM, Daemons, Dark Angels, Tau, and a flyer supplement.

      Thats 4 codexes and a supplement in 4 months. Their plan is to release 1 codex or army book every month or month and a half. They are dead on schedule, so yes, if this keeps up you will see every army covered this edition.

      Next edition of fantasy is being worked on, so I would expect to see a LOT of 40K to come out, then then a LOT of fantasy with that drops.

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    4. Traditionally gw drop the first 3-4 codexes/army books of a new edition with 6-8 months of edition release, then they start to slow reaching trickle status prior to the drop of a new edition.
      Now I don't pretend to know what future releases are planned and when, I'm just running this based on past experience (4th ed fantasy, 3rd ed 40k).
      It's a business model that has worked for them and it ain't broke why fix it. If they do manage to pump out all the codexes for 6 that's brilliant my mates and I can play for years to come with a system that will be as balanced as they get, at least for gw, and I'll never have to buy another rule book or codex ever again.

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    5. @ Saearath: what about (just an idea) if the 7th doesn't change the rules, but the fluff, putting timeline, let's say, 500 years in the future? Will you buy the books, then? The codices will have a different story to read, new models and so on. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you buy a digital edition, your volume is updated with the new edition, isn't it? I mean, you buy today Tau 6th with Ipad, when the 7th will be out your volume will be updated automatically free of charge. Should be this way because what they sell you in the iBook store is "Codex: Tau" (or whatsoever) and not "Codex: Tau 6th ed." I could be wrong on this, but I hope not.

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    6. If they progress the story it might be tempting but not enough to be backing a business on. My example of dungeons and dragons by wizards can attest to it. Wizards progressed the storyline moving from 3.5e into 4e but many continued on with the earlier addition because it was a complete set and style that did not require the upgrade further.
      As for the updating your iPad codex, they can and mostly will update as things are produced or errata is made, but when it comes time for an actual update when they start selling a different hard copy book, you will have to fork out for it again I'm afraid.

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  13. Well after this weeks tau release I'll be spending no more money this year other than maybe to expand on my scenery collection. I almost hope there's no nice new SM toys as I already have enough. I don't think my wallet (or my wife!) Could stand the expenditure!

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  14. I'm keen to see Adepta Sororitas, with perhaps a smidgen of Adeptus Arbites, at roughly the same time as the Black Templars. Put some Inquisitors in by all means but not as the focal-point.

    I don't think being Inquisition-centric has that much mileage. With Xenos it's the aliens that are interesting and there would be more mileage in doing Demiurg or some other alien race, than going into detail about Inquisitorial gadgetry. Grey Knights and SOB are sufficient coverage.

    Sisters of Battle would be awesome. I agree with earlier comments that they might surprise GW in the same way as Tau.

    Regarding these rumours i think they are vague and wishy washy. GW are hitting a much more frequent release schedule this year and these rumours reflect a previous release mindset.

    If GW continue releasing cool stuff it will get bought and there is plenty of room for improvement and new ideas no matter how much they release. Onward.

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  15. Almost all of those books have had recent releases! Sisters of battle haven't received a real release about a decade. I would also like to see a Black Templar codex seeing as they haven't received an update in almost about as long as the sisters.

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    1. That is also why it is hard for GW to do a proper SoB codex. They have probably the least models converted to plastic or finecast, meaning they need the most work and basically a complete redo. Most other armies already have many plastic or finecast miniatures and only require a new unit or a couple units redone or repackaged.

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  16. I wish the Inquisition was more of an IG specialty book. Where specific HQ units unlock the Ordos (no mixing) and allowed you to buy squads from that Ordos to go with IG squads.

    I think that Grey Knights and SoB have deterred too far as a full army for this to happen though.

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  17. Right now, it's just fantasy. The "Forces of the Inquisition" codex has been around as rumor for as long as I can remember.

    Instead, we got Codex: Grey Knights.

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  18. I'll be disappointed if SW gets redone before BA and BT.

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  19. I swear I remember seeing a rumor over on Warseer saying that Space Wolves would get a giant, two-headed, Morkai-style wolf, as well as Wulfen and flyers (or at least some type of anti-air), which seems to go along well with this rumor. Can't find it, though.

    Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Wolves got an update sooner rather than later. They've really fallen by the wayside without any flyers or AA. Similarly, I could see Blood Angels being in the really early design phase, especially if the updates keep coming as fast as they are now.

    That being said, I don't think a full Inquisition codex makes sense. There's a lot more that could be done with Battle Sisters and the Ecclesiarchy if they're on there own, and of course more models = more money for GW. Also, if it includes all three Ordos, why wouldn't it have some type of Deathwatch (like everybody else mentioned)?

    So, basically, I could see parts of this rumor being right on the strength of educated guessing, but I'm gonna follow Natfka's advice and add extra salt.

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  20. I'm running a big illegal army... guard, Grey knights and sisters. I love it so much. If a codex made that proper I would be over the moon

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  21. I'm running a big illegal army... guard, Grey knights and sisters. I love it so much. If a codex made that proper I would be over the moon

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  22. One day I will wake up and there is a GW Kickstarter for SoB :)

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    1. Look up Raging Heroes Kickstarter. Female penal legion IG with female DKoK adversaries (think tank girl meets vasquez from Aliens). Then dark elves then Sisters. Promises of individual minis in between.

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  23. How is this "cool" news? Sisters are not a frakking sideshow to Garystu Knights, the need and deserve to be expanded upon in their own separate codex.

    Also, Sisters having their own codex would allow (re)introduction of all the wacky Ecclesiarchy stuff like Frateris Militia and the various sects like the Redemptionists, the Imperialists, the Brethren of Light, whereas this would not fit well together with the Inquisition.

    In a previous thread, there was some resistance to the idea of having also Arbites and/or Sisters of Silence (or whoever crews the Black Ships in the 41st millennium) in the Sisters codex, but again, they would nicely supplement it and be more at home there than in GK book.

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